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Rosa Borg's avatar

Mary, this is so moving. I love the tender way you write about your mother, how your caring roles are reversed and how although you've written in her voice, both your voices-characters are distinct and clear.

Substack does have the potential to be today's literary magazine. By carefully choosing who to follow, it can be kept relatively free from politics.

<Mary L. Tabor>'s avatar

One of my favorite essays that so much about our love ...

Rosa Borg's avatar

Yes, I was reminded about what a friend said, that grief is love enduring. It's no wonder you mourned so deeply.

Matthew Long's avatar

I think that the potential is there for Substack to host future iterations of literary magazines. I was having a conversation the other day with someone on this topic. I think it is doable but I agree with Joshua that is would require some curation.

One of the reasons I thought about this was because the number of publications just keeps growing everyday. While I love the idea that everyone has their own publication, it becomes increasingly challenging to subscribe to and support all the writers we would like.

Something like a journal or a joint publication with multiple writers would provide a means for readers to subscribe in one place to multiple people. Obviously there are some big outlets doing this on Substack already for journalism.

It would be an interesting step in the literary evolution.

<Mary L. Tabor>'s avatar

Yes, another good build on Josh's thought about all this ... But then you, in a way, are doing this with an occasional anthology--so kudos for that ... xx

Robin Payes's avatar

So moving, Mary. I love the tenderness in capturing her voice, her helplessness, your awkwardness. Just lovely.

I agree, Substack is the new place where literary writing can flourish. Honored to be in company with you here. Everything is being upended and media is transforming. But here, at least, are kindred spirits.

Thank you and all who come here with stories to share, for nurturing the possibilities.

<Mary L. Tabor>'s avatar

So clearly said, Robin -- and with my heartfelt thanks for your first sentence—and then continuing the so-much-needed conversation ... xx oo ~Mary

Jeanine Kitchel's avatar

Beautiful Mary.

<Mary L. Tabor>'s avatar

Ah Jeanine, my heart to yours. xx

Jeanine Kitchel's avatar

From the afghan on--and so interesting to write through your mom and her thoughts.

Elizabeth Bobrick's avatar

Beautiful, moving and complex story, Mary. I’m glad you shared it, and you can see how many others feel the same. I checked out Iron Horse on Duotrope and it says ‘market temporarily closed.’ Since it’s a university publication, the department may have had their funds/staff cut and are only managing to keep social media posts going. Xo

Elizabeth Bobrick's avatar

It’s Texas, after all.

<Mary L. Tabor>'s avatar

Another good point, Elizabeth ...

<Mary L. Tabor>'s avatar

Ah, Elizabeth, lovely words about the essay--and my thanks for your research on Duotrope--that may explain what happened. This magazine has been around "forever" --so sad that they may have lost funding ...

Stephanie Sweeney's avatar

First of all, what a lovely piece. So tender and loving. I’m glad you’re sharing here for more people to see. Which brings the second point— I wonder about literary magazines all the time. I want to find a way into that world, the affirmation and external approval, and respectability of publication credit. But you see stories like yours, and like the recent Narrative Magazine contest, and wonder where it’s all headed. Who knows. Either way, I’m glad we have Substack.

<Mary L. Tabor>'s avatar

Hi, Stephanie, First thank you for the lovely words. Second, you've hit on exactly what I'm exploring after the essay and, considering my link to "Literary Magazines, Why Bother?", that world is where I got started and discovered. I, too wonder about the enormous lag times for a response, the lack of circulation--and yet the unquestionable importance of that world to my writing and even my teaching life. I am, like you, so glad for Substack! xx

Kara Westerman (she/her)'s avatar

It seems like it will now be the television for our times too. The everything in spot.

<Mary L. Tabor>'s avatar

Possibly -- meaning a comparable for authors and learners in the way television has changed in our time. Do agree, Kara? Or, to put it another way: Is that what you meant?

Flavia Sekles's avatar

The way I see it, what has changed is how we interact with paper versus modern devices (I “read” all the time by listening to Audiobooks). This makes me think that, yes, I am glad for Substack for being able to come here each night and find a whole new world of surprises and “meet” new people with different points of view. It’s the literary magazine for our times.

<Mary L. Tabor>'s avatar

Flavia, I get exactly what you are saying--and the fact that you are here reading "Last Dance" (I hope, anyway) proves your point.

Jennifer Zarin, LCAT's avatar

Beautiful and intimate, Mary.

<Mary L. Tabor>'s avatar

Oh, Jennifer: heart to heart--and that happens only here on Substack; amazing isn't it?

Del's avatar

Simply beautiful piece. Thank you.

<Mary L. Tabor>'s avatar

Oh my, so grateful here.

appleton king's avatar

not sure how i wasn't subscribed to this 🤔

but... had waited to return to the short story book when i most needed it with wonderful painting on cover and the many Olivias and it has provided much needed comfort 💫❤️‍🩹

<Mary L. Tabor>'s avatar

Oh my goodness, Appleton: Thank you so for reading _The Woman Who Never Cooked_ and for reading "Last Dance."

appleton king's avatar

i dole them out....like spoonfuls of (real) maple syrup very insightful (given the memoir)

Joshua Doležal's avatar

Thank you for sharing this touching piece, Mary. For what it's worth, I do not see Substack as a new literary magazine. The old model was based on curation by discerning readers: editors often built their journals over lifetimes, and they set a standard based on craft that aspiring writers could meet. That model was subsidized by institutions, which created an almost zero-cost entry point. Once journals started charging reading fees and selecting fewer pieces due to the glut of digital submissions, the culture changed profoundly. Substack might be a platform where we build new literary journals with low overhead and zero cost for hosting. But curation must be part of that model, in my opinion.

<Mary L. Tabor>'s avatar

Good point, Josh.

Marcy Norman, RN's avatar

An absolutely beautifully written piece. This brought tears to my eyes. My youngest daughter is still little, but I know there will come a day she will be caring for me, just as I have always cared for her

<Mary L. Tabor>'s avatar

Oh, Marcy, so lovely. heartfelt thanks.

Amanda C. Sandos's avatar

I am sobbing over here, because I now care for my mother with dementia. I felt every second of your Dance. I have lived every second. I can’t comment on the literary magazine part, but I sure am glad you are posting it here. Thank you for showing me again that I am not alone.

<Mary L. Tabor>'s avatar

Oh, Amanda, your words here mean so much and possibly more than you know. I am so glad we have connected.

Although I am way booked for Inner Life into the fall, you might want to think about writing here as my guest for sometime in the fall of 2025. If you can't find my email address, direct message me and we can discuss, as time allows. xx

Amanda C. Sandos's avatar

Oh that is a fantastic idea. I will find it and message you when I can.

Kim Van Bruggen's avatar

As I age and watch my own daughter with her babies, and help my dad with his declining health (dementia) I felt this story in my bones today Mary. Thanks for sharing it here.

<Mary L. Tabor>'s avatar

Kim, Means so much that you took the time to comment, that the essay resonated and this--to share what you said here with the paradox of hope and loss.

Susie Mawhinney's avatar

From my heart to yours Mary… the poignancy of this essay, the tenderness… like Veronika, I too wonder about memory, how those tiny snippets of time revert to the now.. how we hold them close?

As for your question, this heavenly place is already my literary magazine.

<Mary L. Tabor>'s avatar

My heart swelled with your words, Susie. The sense I when I posted this essay so close to me and with the story of its publication was that perhaps I write into a void. But finding you and the others who have commented here assures me that small as I may be on this site that so many of us trust with our words and our souls, really, is worth the connections ... And you are a treasured connection, Susie.

Susie Mawhinney's avatar

Mary I never had the chance to hold my elderly mother, the occasion to see her grow older was stolen when she was younger than I am now…my father also. Your important, and it is, heartfelt essay was not only beautiful and poignant and tender, it filled me with an exquisite melancholic longing. Words that have such latent power are meant to be read and shared, they tough an inner chord often neglected. And you, beautiful lady, are masterful at that! ♥️

<Mary L. Tabor>'s avatar

You are a gem, Susie. So glad we found each other.

Kimberly Warner's avatar

I loved this piece so much Mary. But I’ll admit, the magazine made it nearly impossible to share! I know I emailed you my thoughts, my gratitude, but I feared it wouldn’t get the eyes and praise it so deserved. I forwarded the link a few people and they all struggled to figure out where your essay was within the larger Photo story. That’s all to say, I’m relieved to see it here! Yes, Substack feels very much like the new Lit Mag, or at least in the circles we engage over here, though I do miss the look and feel of a favorite collection in my hands.

<Mary L. Tabor>'s avatar

Indeed! Kimberly, I read your comment on a day (yesterday) that took all my time away from me and, clearly, I did not say what needs to be said: I don't think I ever emailed this to you--but am off to search for our exchange. The very fact that the link didn't work for folks to find to find the essay on the literary magazine bemuses me further (believe it's on p.20 if that helps).

Here's what I most need to say: You are a light in my life, Kimberly, dearest.

Veronika Bond's avatar

And to your question about the literary magazine...

I think yes! We should create one right here on substack. We are writing here, poems, essays, whole books, and publishing them... a literary magazine on substack seems like an obvious next step.

<Mary L. Tabor>'s avatar

Ah, Maybe we can figure out a way to do this? xx